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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:15 pm 
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Hello to all,

Schoppy just posted my newly revised white paper “An Introduction to Adult Diapers – their Selection and Wear” to the Articles section. You can find it from the Home page by clicking <Articles> and <Other Articles> or by clicking this link:
http://www.incontinentsupport.org/Intro ... iapers.pdf

This paper is my effort to provide others with information to answer the questions I struggled to answer during the first six or so months after I began wearing adult diapers. I have put a lot of time into the paper and this is its second major revision. Please note that it is intended for newbies to adult diapers or for the relatively uninformed user who never went beyond buying drugstore diapers. It cannot compete with the scope or depth of the excellent The New Diaper Primer, which is referenced in the paper.

Guys and ladies, I really need your feedback as I would like to make the next revision better than this one. I need to know what should be improved and what new topics should be added. If you would take the time to read the paper and provide me your constructive comments, they truly will be appreciated. Either post them publicly to this forum or send them to me privately in a PM.

I should note that my other white paper “Preventive Enemas for the Control of Fecal “incontinence” also is in the Articles and I again would appreciate any comments you would care to provide.

Thanks to all. :D

--John


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:39 pm 
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JD, I read it pillar to post, and it is very well done. I really do not think you have missed anything at all from what I see, and didn't run across any spelling errors in my read either. Good write up for someone new to all this! 8) Puffy

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:25 pm 
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Very informative JD. Thanks for putting your time into it.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:51 am 
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Excellent paper! Very informative and thorough! It is obvious you put a lot of time and thought into it, with plenty of research. Thank you for your contribution in combating the loneliness, confusion and helplessness that often accompany this condition in its various forms.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:17 am 
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Thanks for your very kind comments, guys!

Tarlton, you mentioned the loneliness, confusion, and helplessness that can accompany incontinence and I fully second that. I will confess that researching and writing the paper was, and continues to be, a form of therapy for me. My gastroenterologist has said that this paper, and the one on preventive enemas, are my way of channeling my anxieties over my incontinence in a positive direction (which he approved). I am not a psychologist, but he probably is correct. :roll:

Again, my thanks to Schoppy for hosting my papers on this site.

--John


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:07 am 
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John,

You have done a great job with the paper. Your recommendations of products are particularly astute. I hope that you will continue to try new products and update the paper as things change.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:08 pm 
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Thank you Inconimiss for your kind words. I will try to keep things up to date.

Suggestions and comments are most welcome.

I really need input to improve the paper specifically from a woman's point of view.

--John


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:40 pm 
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John,

I have one recommendation concerning your paper. In addition to all the worries I had when I first had to start wearing, I soon realized I would have to go though airport security for a business trip. Granted I wasn't worried about the metal detectors, I started getting anxiety about being selected for a random pat down and the TSA agent feeling it. Maybe contributing a paragraph to flying and what to do and what not to do. One thing I found that help ease my anxiety was finding out about the TSA disability card. https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/files ... _cards.pdf Knowing it wouldn't get me out of a pat down, but at least I could communicate with the agent without saying my condition out loud helped a little. So far I haven't had an accident bad enough where I had to change while on the plane, but I could not image trying to change in those bathrooms.

I cannot tell you how much I appreciated this forum and the people on here. It has made dealing with this condition in my head a little easier.

Bruce


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:23 pm 
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John,

In general, I think your paper is a good start and would be helpful to many. Individual situations vary though, so here are some of my thoughts based on my own experience and that of others I know

Some of us are partially or fully incontinent in addition to or as a result of other disabilities. Not everyone is able to stand or move or see or have the dexterity to manipulate tapes or fasteners well. It would be helpful to some to know more about the brands with a higher number of reclosable tapes, hook and loop, pull ons, rather than just the tapes etc. from members with experience with them.

I respect your own experience but as a person who is frequently and unpredictably bladder and occasionally bowel incon, at least in my own experience, high end pull ons can indeed work for moderate bladder and/or bowel incon or extended wear, (although not ideally because I can't change often. My own physical limitations don't give me much of a choice in that. If people do have one, then yes, they might find a brief better.) While your only pull-on recommendation of the Tranquility Overnights were okay for me, in my experience, they were not the best. You asked for a woman's point of view. Well, my apologies to you and other men for being graphic, but I disliked the distinctive "peach mat" (pinkish orange lining) because if a woman is menstruating, it's difficult to distinguish how much blood (vs urine vs sticky stool) has come out and when it has to be changed because of that-- is that a stain or is it more than that? Women who haven't stopped yet have to consider that aspect too in terms of capacity. On a white or blue or whatever other color lining, it's easier to see what one is dealing with than that pinkish orange that blends in with the colors of what's coming out. Tranquility also does not have the highest reported capacity for a pull on (Abena, and now the new Northshore product do) and I found while it was better than the lower and mid range, it leaked on me more than the Abena. I have just started trying the Northshore and while it's ok so far, I don't think it's going to surpass the Abena for me.

It would also be good if members gave some feedback on relative sizes of individual products and their packaging. Some people have limited storage space in their homes, little or no personal storage space in workplaces or school lockers, no cars, travel by public transit, etc, and even though fit on the body is most important, storage and disposal also become practical considerations. One brand might be thinner but bigger. Another might be bulkier but smaller. How many can one discreetly fit in one's work or school bag or luggage if one happens to be going away for several days? I personally think about these things because other household members don't want my bulky personal hygiene trash overflowing before a pickup or I might be staying in someone else's home where discreet disposal is more of a concern than just tossing it in a public restroom trash can. Here, there's a difference in the female experience too, because we usually have trash cans or sanitary product disposal bins in public restrooms and nobody cares or notices if you're making noise or throwing something out. They just assume it's a sanitary item or a child's diaper or whatever. I don't think, in general, women are as concerned about who's listening or who's watching as men. Unless it's a small workplace or something, one is not going to see strangers in a public restroom again. But in another person's home, even if they have some idea one is incon, one doesn't want to be having them deal with one's personal hygiene trash or creating an odor in their bathroom or so on.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:25 am 
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Bruce and Zenute,

Both excellent comments! You are providing perspectives that did not occur to me. I definitely will mark those down for the next revision of the paper.

--John


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