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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:04 am 
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I am on taped briefs during the day, in fact due to the work/anxiety stress it is neccessary due the large amount of accidents (i.e. partically no control over wetting). Luckily my stomach and myself have settled down a bit, I am still wetting without any knowledge but that isnt unexpected and was the reason for the post in the first place.

I hadnt hear of PDD-NOS which type are you more closing link to? This bit is very new to me and going through the clinical diagnosis at the moment. I suppose none of that helps, as its all up in the air at the moment. Thank you for your message.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:24 pm 
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Well I'm not sure about pads, but lille supremes are diapers so I have an easy check for that. Just pinch the outside of the diaper in an area that will indicate if you're really wet and close to leaking or not.

For me, this is my back side (near the anus). If when I pinch it and the diaper is firm then I'm not too wet. If it's soft and squishy then I'm about due for a change.

Over time, you'll also realize there are certain times of the day when you'll be needing a change, or will be close to it. If you stick to changing at those time, them most times (even setting an alarm if needed) you'll be ok and not leak.

I use high capacity premium diapers so I can get away with just three changes at 7am (within one hour of waking up), 3pm (mid afternoon), and 9pm (before bed).

Thanks to the body's normal cycles of retaining and loosing water this doesn't always work though and will need to change closer to 1pm and again at 6pm. Hence my need to do periodic pinch spot checks.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:11 pm 
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Incontinence Pads = Nappy = Diaper :)

"Just pinch the outside of the diaper in an area that will indicate if you're really wet and close to leaking or not. For me, this is my back side (near the anus). If when I pinch it and the diaper is firm then I'm not too wet. If it's soft and squishy then I'm about due for a change."

The Lille are hard to tell but that does help.

"Over time, you'll also realize there are certain times of the day when you'll be needing a change, or will be close to it. If you stick to changing at those time, them most times (even setting an alarm if needed) you'll be ok and not leak."

Alarn clock maybe the answer.

"I use high capacity premium diapers so I can get away with just three changes at 7am (within one hour of waking up), 3pm (mid afternoon), and 9pm (before bed)."

Certainly as time goes on I am certainly upping the capacity.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:34 pm 
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UPDATE: Today

Well it is definitely work, I get up take off my nighttime pad and enjoy the freedom.

Leave for work, sithin two minutes the background anxiety starts. I then pull over and get pad because within 15 mintutes (of a 30 minutes) I will have an accident.Well accident implies a choice and there is none. If I have been to the toilet before I leave its a dribble if not can be more.

Then until I leave work its not worth not wearing, Had some serious coding to do today. Got into it and low and behold at the 2pm deadline for the end of coding segment, shock, horror, soaked and leaked, privately I might add. Oh well, did get some quality work done.

Unless I focus on something else then all I will think about is the pad. Which is too distracting (I wont leak but will have constant worry/anxiety over leaking/people seeing/etc).

Or I work (I need to), Focus (Get on) and wet (which I wont notice). Oh well, I best get used to it and hope then I can find a balance.

So now 3/4 thru the day onto the second pad (which I have no clue to how wet it is, I am probably close to changing.

I dont see at the moment how I can avoid it, the capacity/protection wont help as I will still get distracted and forget I am wearing. To explain, if you dont need to do anytime on a task (like changing) at that moment then it goes out my head unless I think about it again. Because my head is so busy this means then next thinking about it is leaking. It is very fustrating. I know about fixation pants, plastic pants, boosters, doubling, etc. So protection is sorted. My head isn't


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:21 am 
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GFord,

What causes your incontinece? Have the doctors given you a definitive diagnosis? I can definetly relate to being "in the zone" and not being able to focus on more that one thing at a time...im easily distractible. I have ADHD along iwht the PDD..I'm not sure i understand your question about linking... for me, my incontinence, according to my most recent urologist, is neurgeninc bladder of the underactive variety which means not only do i have to wear protection, i have to cath 4 times a day to avoid retention (though i will admit lately im slacking off due to not having the proper means to prep my hydrophilc catheters, and them just not being comfortable witout water)

Are you able to make it to the toilet some of the time and thus maintain some level of control? I am able to. Yes, it seems that when one weard diapers, what's the point in using the toilet? Well, using hte toilet when you can cuts down on wet diapers and avoids skin breakdowon, or at least staves it off. I definetly recommend upping your protection. Do you have a rough idea of how much you void at a time? Do you have several small voids or one big flood? See, if you have several small voids it is important to choose a diaper that has more emphasis on overall capacity versus acquisiton speed... I don't think you can get them in the Uk, but there are diapers called Dry 24/7 that have a 90 oz capacity.
Is your incon like mine, where you don't get an idea your'e full until its too late, and then the floodgates open? In that case, youd want a diaper that has not only a high capacity, but also a high acquisiton rate. Abena has decent capacity as well as a fairly good acquisition rate, while molicare has one of the best acquisiton rates, but sacrifices some capacity. I hope this helps. I recommend in the meantime wearing plastic pants if you can over your diaepr, or at least wear underwear over them. That shouild help contain the leaks.

I hope this helps!

Peace out!

Rob

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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:07 am 
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Rob,

sociologygeek wrote:
What causes your incontinece? Have the doctors given you a definitive diagnosis?


Due put things off and not having good experiences with doctors when I was younger I have should of ignored my problem; I just assume that my bed wetting was natural and so just have protected myself and that routine is fine by me. In fact I have better nights sleep because of it.

Until recently the daytime wetting has been rare a couple of week a couple of times a year and completely linked to Anxiety. So I havent been to the doctors about it. I start start the process about 10 years back and wanted to get something sorted. I could to speak to someone and got scared/nervous/anxious and defaulted to standard habits.

About a month ago it was suggested to me to look into Aspergers and boy did I fit it like a glove. Since then I have been getting that formally diagnosed in fact I had an appointment today and should hopefully get a referral in the next week or two. Once I get a handle on it and I will mention the wetting when I am confortable enough. If my heart isnt in it, there is no point in trying. But I do have a plan.

Reason for wetting:

Daytime: - STRESS/ANXIETY

Nighttime: I simplily sleep very deeply and nothing wakes me up until morning. Now I have kids I wake up with them.

sociologygeek wrote:
I can definetly relate to being "in the zone" and not being able to focus on more that one thing at a time...im easily distractible. I have ADHD along iwht the PDD..I'm not sure i understand your question about linking...


Erm... the description on the web say your condition was on the spectum but didnt indicate a specific direction. So I was wondering which direction you associate with. Sorry this is very very new to me. And working out how it is effecting my life is hard.

sociologygeek wrote:
for me, my incontinence, according to my most recent urologist, is neurgeninc bladder of the underactive variety which means not only do i have to wear protection, i have to cath 4 times a day to avoid retention (though i will admit lately im slacking off due to not having the proper means to prep my hydrophilc catheters, and them just not being comfortable witout water)


I know what you mean about what you should do and what you do do. Like at the moment, I have run low on funds, forgot to buy diapers and now doubling on thinner ones I have until I get more. But I have pushed this off for two days. Argh! So much to do, so like time.

sociologygeek wrote:
Are you able to make it to the toilet some of the time and thus maintain some level of control? I am able to. Yes, it seems that when one weard diapers, what's the point in using the toilet? Well, using hte toilet when you can cuts down on wet diapers and avoids skin breakdowon, or at least staves it off. I definetly recommend upping your protection. Do you have a rough idea of how much you void at a time? Do you have several small voids or one big flood? See, if you have several small voids it is important to choose a diaper that has more emphasis on overall capacity versus acquisiton speed... I don't think you can get them in the Uk, but there are diapers called Dry 24/7 that have a 90 oz capacity.


Nighttime:
No control, totally relaxed, wet every morning.

Home before work:
Totally relaxed and can make it most of the time. have about 15-20 minutes notice before accident. No protection really needed although training pants for the occasional dribble may be an idea.

Leaving Home / Work / Coming Home:
My control lessens during work hours. About 1-5 minutes notice. I probably pee most of the time every 15 minutes of so and little wee but not constant dribble. About 25% of the time at work I have more control (like normal and I retain more urine). Then on these occasion an urgent need will say goto the toilet with about 3 minutes before accident. Accident would be spurts lots. So techically every time I could make it to the loo but would be going at least every 30 mins.

If I concetrate on a task then probably the same voided but little or no warning.

After work:
Totally relaxed and can make it most of the time. have about 15-20 minutes notice before accident.

sociologygeek wrote:
Is your incon like mine, where you don't get an idea your'e full until its too late, and then the floodgates open? In that case, youd want a diaper that has not only a high capacity, but also a high acquisiton rate. Abena has decent capacity as well as a fairly good acquisition rate, while molicare has one of the best acquisiton rates, but sacrifices some capacity. I hope this helps. I recommend in the meantime wearing plastic pants if you can over your diaepr, or at least wear underwear over them. That shouild help contain the leaks.


I am very happy with my Pad choices and know which ones to use. Plastic Pants are a must until I can get some fixation waterproof pants and some liners.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:12 pm 
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Gford you may want to set a timer, alarm or reminder to go change I'd you have trouble remembering and stuff
The routine can potentially help with some of your anxiety also.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:37 pm 
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kdlstar wrote:
Gford you may want to set a timer, alarm or reminder to go change I'd you have trouble remembering and stuff
The routine can potentially help with some of your anxiety also.


It not troubling remembering I remember everything whether I like it of not. The problem is getting to involved in something and not giving changing a high enough priorities. Not that I have any real conception of priorties. If alarm did go off I probably turn it off and say I will check in X time and never get round to it.

I suppose this is going to be experience / putting a schedule in I can stick to.

I will this was easier but my head is a nightmare.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:46 pm 
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Today has been better only one leak, my order came in so I wasnt on my last few days of supplies.

Currently using Tena Slip Maxi, a bit tight but I like them.

First time changing in a disabled toilet, but unfortuately as I was buying the pads my stomach was rubbleling. As I was paying, a guggle was heard and I was trying to hold on until I got the toilet but my luck wasnt in and I messed myself, 2 times this week, at the till. Apologised and left the store, that was fun not. my anxiety was thru the room. Luckily I dint leak and got cleaned up quickly.

Of well, so far I like the Tena no leaks, so we shall see. I am getting better at changing as the priority seems to be improving in my head. Still drifting off in the morning causing the only leak.

Overall much happier day. Still embrassing but at least under control.


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 Post subject: Re: When to change
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:29 pm 
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Just curious. How well are you able to multi-task? I mean like in general, and at most anything?


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