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Paul M posted this a while back and there have been over 400 hits-folks reading that post.

I got some of these colorful adult print waterproof pants and love them. I'm one who wouldn't be caught dead wearing juvenile print plastic pants but I do like my colors and the offerings here are primarily adult print; circles and stripes. I kind of like the idea of wearing my blue stripes waterproof pants under my suit when I need to be formal! <grin>

Made by Bumpkins, these are high quality pants with soft lycra leg and waist bands. Since they are waterproofed fabric, they breath, which is a plus in the hot weather. Some may object to the slightly damp feel between the legs but there is never any actual wetness; your pants and furniture stay absolutely dry even after your diaper is quite wet. Others may object to the noise, but we've talked a lot about the topic of noise and how it is more of a percieved problem than an actual problem.

When the topic of print plastic pants has come up in the past, there is usually a lot of lamenting that there are no prints for adults....well, now there is! Tho not plastic pants, these are great waterproof pants and I ask if others have jumped on the bandwagon and given them a try?

URL is on our links page and repeated here for convenience:

www.changingtimesdiaperco.com

and there are some juvenile prints as well, in bright bold colors!

I'd love to hear some "reviews" with summer coming and "dressing down and lighter". I wish I were brave enough to be out side doing yard work in just a tee shirt and my blue stripe WPs over my diaper.

JoeK

Hey Joe
I to have found myself enjoying the printed Plastic pants. I was also one that thought it would be wrong or even Taboo for an Adult to have printed or even lace rumba plastic pants. But just because I'm a Big Girl doesn't mean I can't enjoy little girl stuff Kinda sounds a little AB/DL

Maybe if we really dig there is a little AB/DL in us. WOW did I just say that?? I've been one who has always been totally against that Fetish. But now find myself wearing some of their Plastic pants I still struggle with buying any thing that ia advertized under the term AB/DL or "adult baby"

Joe says he wishes he was brave enough to go outside in the plastic pants and a T-shirt I'm worried about you Joe LOL . But then I agree that it is comfy to go without pants over your plastic pants and/or Diapers in general. I often go around the House in just a T-shirt Diaper and Plastic pants. My Husband thinks my Printed Plastic pants are cute But If I wear my Rumba pants I seem to have a sign on me that says Come Get ME I

I looked at that Website you gave Joe. I may have to order from there I like those ones with the Farm Animals

................Sandy

Hi Sandy!

Thanks for the encouragement! I do wear nothing over my diaper and plastic pants around the house in the summer time, but I live by myself so am offending no one. It's great your husband has no problem with your wearing just a diaper....it really is cooler, for those incons who complain a diaper is hot and sweaty, well, it can be, even with only shorts worn over it.

I was very surprised at the difference I discovered when I first wore just a diaper for awhile before putting on the usual shorts or other outer wear. I was raised in a family that did not tolerate family members appearing in underwear, so I was never used to "just a diaper"; it was always "underwear" and always covered before you came out of the bedroom to mingle with the rest of the family. It was not until many years later, after the family died off and I found myself alone, that I made that discovery.

Even a plastic backed disposable is more comfortable in summer heat with nothing over it. Cloth diapers with plastic pants, same thing, but here there is a big advantage with the coated waterproof pants that breath. They are remarkably more comfortable. The water vapor that comes thru the pants creats evaporative cooling when there is unrestricted air flow around the pants. I feel I can say you will NOT feel hot and sweaty on a hot day because of your diapers; you may feel hot and sweaty, but the breathable pants and nothing worn over them will provide maximum heat relief.

I seldom wear disposables so I can't comment on whether the breathable cloth like backed disposables are more comfortable in summer heat.

That Changing Times Diaper Co came along at a perfect time to provide a colorful break to those of us who won't tolerate "baby print" plastic pants but who do want some boldness and colorful prints in our "underwear".

I am pleased you agree CTDC has some neat prints and I'd think you'd try the feminine rose stipes or rose circles. And look at the Flower garden; it seems to be a purple pant-if you like purple-dotted with garden stuff, all none-baby print but what I think I'd call a feminine print.

I do kind of like the Fat Farm pattern you mention; I think it is primarily a blue wp pants. The green "getting around" pattern is neat but a bit on the juvinile print side.

The "Bumkins" pants I got from CTDC are high quality; the material is bright and tough and the leg and waist bands are a nice gentle Lycra! They are well cut to cover a cloth diaper with a very generous crotch width, 12" on a size Large pant, and an 11" side seam-nothing skimpy about these wp pants!

And let me conclude with my opinion that diapers and waterproof pants are underwear and are never acceptable out in public view. Ok, call me a prude, but I sure don't want to be seen in public in my blue stripe wp pants and end up on the wrong side of the laws concerning proper dress when out in public!

JoeK

I would like to thank JoeK for all his comments about the new waterproof polyester pants from Changing Times Diaper Company (CTDC). My name is Robert and I started CTDC earlier this year. I am not here to sell these pants, only to share experiences with managing incontinence.

I was born with an undiagnosed tethered spina cord. Surgeries at age six did correct the tethered cord, but the nerve damage had already been done. This was back in 1964 so cloth diapers and plastic pants were the only option in managing my bladder and bowel incontinence.

In the summertime, I have worn just a cloth diaper to help reduce the chance of developing diaper rash. I was allowed to walk around our house and to play in our backyard wearing just a diaper. This continued into my early teen years. I would put my plastic pants on at the first sign of the diaper getting wet.

It is not unusual for me to walk around our house in just a cloth diaper. We have no children and many times in the summer my wife will strip down to just her panties and a top. We are both cooler this way and we do not have to use the air conditioner. It gets hot here in Northern California during the summer months.

As far as diapers, I do prefer gauze or diaper twill. These materials seem to pull the moisture away from the skin. Anything I can do to keep my skin drier aids in avoiding skin breakdown. I have learned many tricks over the years and have developed a way to make adult size diapers from the 21"x40" cloth diapers sold by Granitesmiths Diapers on ebay. I also have a large supply of new Gerber diaper twill diapers which will eventually be made into adult diapers. These diapers normally last around three to four years.

I have worn many brands of plastic pants since becoming incontinent at age six. Baby pants from TG&Y and Woolworths were worn into my teen years. I was on the small size as a teen and was able to wear the Woolworths Extra Large Super Size baby pants till age seventeen.

Plastic pants from Sears, Salk, Kleinerts, Gerber Babywear, VIP, Pro-Health, JK Personal Products, KINS and Gary Mfg. have been used over the years. These are all plastic pants and have one thing in common - they do not breathe. I have worn waterproof nylon/polyester pants from Kleinerts and KINS but found the color white to be boring.

Back in the 80's there was a company who manufactured waterproof nylon pants for infants, toddlers, teens and adults. R.Duck in Santa Barbara sold these pants in bright colors. The pants were well constructed and very comfortable. They were full fit for use over cloth or disposable diapers. The company later moved to Minnesota and changed the name to Top Drawers. They lasted a few years and then closed the business. Another great manufacturer of quality adult pants was now gone.

I have purchased waterproof polyester from Bumkins in the past and sent the material to KINS in Canada. The adult pull-on pants manufactured turn out better than expected and sold extremely well on ebay. I decided to approach Bumkins Finer Baby Products with a proposal to manufacture adult pull-on pants using the same material as their infant pants. This was a long shot and I thought they would not be interested, but I had nothing to loose. Also, the cost associated with shipping the material to and from Canada increased the cost of the pants.

My proposal was well received by the owner of Bumkins. A very detailed letter about the history of adult waterproof pants and several sample pants using their material convinced them to start manufacturing adult pants for CTDC. It took several moths to get the ball rolling and the new pants are being well received by the majority of buyer.

I prefer the waterproof polyester pants as the material breathes and is cooler than plastic pants. I still have a large supply of plastic pants (pull-on and snap-on) and these will eventually be replaced with the polyester pants. I grew up wearing plastic pants, but find these polyester pants as comfortable as the nylon pants once made by R.Duck. I prefer the element print pants (stripes and circles) as they are more on the adult level.

I look forward to reading more topics and hope to pass along experiences learned over the past 43 years. I prefer cloth diapers and waterproof pants while at home and out in the public. Disposable diapers are only worn to work as I can easily find places to change throughout the work day.

Sandy, You are right. We all have that "ab/dl" feeling at times. But how could we not. If you are incontinent you have to wear diapers. A pad or pouch only and you can feel somewhat "normal" but if it's a full diaper (cloth or disposable) it is a diaper. Your forced to lay down or try some acrobatics while standing to put on or change your diapers. The simple act of pinning on diapers (or taping them up), always brings on that "baby" feeling. How could it not. We not only have to wear diapers but we have to use them. I remember when I first was back in diapers - 4 1/2 years ago after PC surgery, I felt half "taking control of my situation" which I believed would be limited to a few months to a year and half babyish.
Somewhere after a few months i realized that I could be in diapers for the rest of my life. Frustration and anger set in. Dealing with what everyone I knew considered everyday life became a burden. Worring about how wet my diapers were or how long till I got home, trapped in traffic, or realizing I should not have had that last drink, or bottle of water was just about driving me out of my mind. I wore cloth diapers almost all the time then switched to disposable diapers for going out.
Changing into dry diapers became a wonderful feeling, the wet diapers drove home a feeling of being "disabled" and/or being babyish. Dry diapers put you back on track. You were dry and in cloth underwear again - but they were diapers none the less. I was so scared of the "buldge" or of leaking through. And somewhere along the way I think I decided to "accept" I was going to be wearing and using diapers a long time.
I had crossed the point of "this is temporary" and gone to "this is now my life/situation." It was then that I now looked at diapers as a permenant part of my life. Maybe it was like using a wheelchair thinking it was short term and so you bought a cheap or simple one. But when you realize it was permenant you start thinking about a more "fancy" one. Thus I started to look at the colors of my plastic pants and with much angst and trepidation purchased some blue and yellow ones. I felt silly and even embarassed, but when I first wore them I felt like I was being adult and accepting my situation and kept saying to myself If you have to wear them why not "be a little bit more fashionable". I had that "what would people think" thing goig on. My God I was in diapers what the hell would people think of that anyway!
Now I am looking at those prints and am back to saying "But they are babyish!" Babyish? I am in diapers for C sake, how could it be more babyish. And it is somewhat like wearing the same clothes everyday and then realizing that some new clothes might just perk you up and make you feel better. I lay down and pin on diapers, it dosen't get much more babyish than that. Yet the color or design on my plastic pants still bothers me. And even wanting to try prints makes me feel embarassed. WHY! I guess you just have to be more confident or secure in your self. I am not there yet - thus I am still in plain or blue or yellow plastic pants. Paul

Hi Paul,

I know exactly how you feel as far as feeling "babyish" when it comes to managing incontinence. How can you not feel like a baby when laying on the floor or bed pinning on a cloth diaper followed by pulling on a pair of plastic pants? I have been through my angry stages since becoming incontinent at age 6. You can well imagine the shame of having to wear diapers as a child and teenager. I often felt like a baby growing up as diapers and plastic pants were meant for babies, not young kids and teens.

My parents helped me through the rough times and I decided there was nothing to be ashamed of when it came to my condition. As far as I was now concerned, people who could not walk used wheelchairs; people who had poor vision wore glasses; and people who could not hear wore a hearing devise. Unfortunately, people who are uninformed about incontinence do not understand that it is a real condition that affects children, teens and adults.

I wish my condition did not require diapers as I would definitely perfer just a pad and pant system. In fact, I wish I was not incontinent and could wear underwear. However, that is not to be and cloth diapers along with plastic pants have been a fact of life. As a child I wore nursery print plastic pants and felt comfortable in them. These were normally worn around the house. The white or colored plastic pants were worn at school and when going somewhere with my parents. My mother was the one who decided if the pants fit, then they would be worn no matter if they were white, colored or print.

I have several nursery print pants from KINS and Gary Mfg. The main reason they are worn is because they are "comfortable". I prefer plastic which is soft and elastic that will withstand extreme use. These print pants are only worn at home. I often wonder if these nursery print plastic pants would be around today if it wasn't for the AB/DL community. I know back in the 80's nursery print pants for adults were rare.

I am glad that Bumkins now makes their pants in adult sizes as the waterproof polyester is much cooler that plastic pants. These pants do breathe and in the summertime will help reduce the chance of skin breakdown. We do have three nursery prints and these are selling about the same rate as the element prints (stripes and circles). My deal with Bumkins is to market them for incontinent children and adult. Our site does not, and will not address the AB/DL community. Will this stop them from buying them? No, and I really don't care as I will never ask a customer if they are incontinent or an AB/DL.

My main reason for starting CTDC was to give individuals dealing with incontinence a choice when it came to the type of pants to wear over their cloth or disposable diaper. Walk into any department store and look at the selection of undergarments for children and adult. The sky is the limit with the patterns and colors available. We are here to give people a choice and offer a pant never made before. CTDC is the first company to offer waterproof polyerter pants in colorful prints for children and adults. We also carry this pant in plain white for those who prefer not to wear print pants.

It was hard for me at first to try waterproof nylon pants. I had grown up in plastic pants and was really unsure about this new type of pant. I would probably still prefer plastic pants today if it hadn't been for R.Duck making adult waterproof nylon pants in bright colors back in the 80's and 90's. I found these pants extremely comfortable and a nice change from plastic pants.

Many individuals will choose disposable briefs. Many like me will choose cloth diapers and plastic/waterproof pants. Some will be able to wear a pad and pant system while other will use a catheter and bag system. Wear what is right for "you" and makes you "comfortable".

Robert

I personally have tried these new pants and really do like them.
In fact, I just ordered 3 new XL ones today for use during the day.

Thankyou for starting your company and making these pants available to everyone.

Hi Schoppy -

Thank you for the positive comments about our pants. I am extremely pleased that nearly all the cutomers are completely satisfied with the new Bumkins adult waterproof pants and many are placing additional orders.

It is kind of hard after years of wearing plastic pants to switch to a waterproof pant which has just been introduced to the incontinence product market. Little is known about these pants unless you have heard of Bumkins Finer Baby Products. They have been making infant cloth diapering products for years and have a great reputation. They use only the finest materials and it is nice to buy a product which is manufactured in the USA. They have taken their years of experience and the adult waterproof pants now being manufactured for incontinent children and adults are high quality garments.

Thanks again for your comments and to JoeK for starting topics about these pants.

Robert

I would like to thank the members here who have purchased the new waterproof pants manufactured by Bumkins Finer Baby Products. It was a big step for me to approach Bumkins with the idea to produce their pants for children and adults. They gladly accepted my proposal and manufactured what I believe is one of the best pants on the market today.

Unfortunately, sales over the past few months have been extremely slow. A great deal of this can be blamed on the current US economy and the trickle effect to other countires. I will be watching the sales carefully over the next two months to determine if there is really a need for this type of waterproof pant.

There is a "great possibility" we will close our doors in October and the Bumkins adult waterproof pants will have had a short life. Bumkins will not produce the adult pants for any other sellers of incontinence products. I urge all members who are interested to get a pair or two of these pants before the remaining stock sells out. We will not be placing another order unless we can be assured their is demand for these colorful print child and adult waterproof pants.

Robert
Owner, CTDC

Thank you for the heads up, Robert!

I continue to be surprised by folks who want "something" but do not understand the realities of the market place. What it takes to get a product to the market place in the first place and then what it takes for it to remain in the market place.

Print "plastic pants" is a case in point. All that is available is juvenile print which many of us won't wear....yet we long for bold print "underwear" just like what is available in mens boxer shorts.....now there is an incredible selection of wild to conservative prints and colors.

This longing for adult prints in our needed waterproof "underwear" has been a thread several times in the past on this and several other incontinence boards. The cost of producing such a product has kept it a dream. Juvenile print plastic pants will always sell.....so that's all that is made available to the adult market place....like it or not.

Changing Times Diaper Company made it happen....finally. While not technically print plastic pants, they are indeed print waterproof pants and offered in truly bold and vibrant colors and prints to appeal to most adults who long for a non-juvenile print waterproof pants to jazz up the incon wardrobe. If anyone has concerns about waterproofed nylon pants keeping them dry, I say such concerns are groundless! You will be as secure wearing these waterproof pants as any pair of plastic pants!

So now where are all the folks who had been clamoring for non-institutional and more fashionable waterproof underwear?

The realities of the market place: if it doesn't sell, it can't remain!

I can only hope that sales will pick up and give CTDC more time to get more exposure and hence more sales....or at least sufficient sales to keep it going. The arrival of your Bumpkins waterproof pants in bold adult prints was a long awaited dream come true. I dread the thoughts of having them now disappear from the market place for lack of sales!

People need to spread the word.

JoeK