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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:46 pm 
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Hi there.

Please pardon me if this comes across awkwardly as I am not accustomed to discussing personal matters such as this with strangers online.

My name is Bethany, I'm a high school student from a small town. I have combined stress and urge incontinence resulting from a car crash a little over a year ago. If I run, jump, cough, sneeze, laugh or bend over too quickly I leak and when I need to pee I had better already be in the bathroom or it is too late.

When I first got out of the hospital I tried wearing thick pads to school and using the toilet on a schedule every hour. That was better than nothing at all but I was having a lot of accidents. About six months ago I convinced my mom to start buying me those Goodnites things they make for kids. I'm small enough that they fit perfectly and they are a big improvement over the pads but I still don't think they are enough. I have to change them a lot and if I have a full blown accident in one that is already wet from leakages I'm always afraid that the little thing will pop from trying to absorb it all. It feels like I've got a water balloon down there when they get that full and it isn't a lot of fun.

Last month I talked to mom about switching to actual diapers during the day. I've been in diapers at night since the accident, but mom is on this big environmental kick so they are cloth diapers and plastic panties. She says it is better for the planet and saves us money, I say it makes me feel like a big baby. I've worn them to school a couple of times but they aren't practical. They're too thick, none of my jeans fit over them and old full length skirts aren't the most stylish things in the world. Also changing them and dealing with wet cloth diapers at school is a real hassle. Mom seems resistant to the idea of me wearing "real diapers" to school but I've mentioned it to her a few more times over the last couple of weeks and I think she's coming around.

I've got some money left over from Christmas and I was going to buy some disposable diapers for myself to try out. I figure if it's my money mom won't say too much. I poked around online and oh my gosh there are so many different kinds available. I guess more people have incontinence problems than I thought. I'm hoping someone can give me a recommendation on where to start.

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:02 am 
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While there can be lots of good information here, the first person you should talk to is your doctor....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:14 am 
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Hi Bethany,

If you had a credit card you could purchase on line and take advantage of the current deal on Wellness diapers, a very good diaper on sale for 99 cents each. You say your mom is "coming around" to your need for a concealable diaper and cloth just isn't for you so you may be able to get her to buy the Wellness diapers and you pay her. Also, that is a tape on diaper.

You may only be interested in pull on diapers (called disposable underwear) and an adult pull on will hold more than the Goodnites you have tried and the small/medium adult pull on should fit OK. If you can buy on line then Medline or Abena pull ons are the best. Find them on the XPMedical site.

Next best thing is the pharmacy where, in most cases these days, only "underwear" (pull ons) are offered. I've not seen any tape on diapers for some time. Store brands are least expensive but usually don't hold much...one wetting and they are done. If you can find Tranquility, you'd have a decent pull on diaper. Most likely the only national brand will be Depend, but it still may be a lot better for you than the Goodnites.

Tape on vs pull on ........

Tape on diapers generally hold more and offer better protection and are easier to change without complete undressing. They are for those who won't be using the toilet as the tapes are a hassle, even tho said to be re-fastenable.

Pull on diapers conceal best, offer good "just in case" protection if you can get to the toilet and they are easy to pull down and use the toilet. Changing them is a hassle....you need to undress and remove shoes to pull a new one on.

And let me add that you do need to talk to a Doctor, as ScottK posted. Don't just accept diapers as your solution. Diapers are great to prevent the social humiliation that results from your bladder not working as it should but they won't fix your bladder and maybe it can be fixed ................ so you won't need diapers!

Good luck!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:26 am 
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I wasn't going to get into this, Bethany, but continued to ponder it after posting my reply to you.

They argument has been going on for a long time and each side has ardent supporters. I'd try to keep it simple and point out to your mom that both cloth diapers and disposables have an impact on the planet. Most agree with that statement.

A good many of us use both, which is a good compromise. Cloth diapers at night when concealment isn't an issue and disposable diapers for day wear. If your mom agrees with that and you wear cloth diapers at night, it should help get you into disposables by day so you can feel secure in your appearance and protection.....and that is very important in life!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:06 pm 
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Welcome, Bethany. I also have periods of stress and urge bladder incontinence. In my case, they come and go as a side effect of other medical conditions Sometimes I don't need to use anything, but sometimes most products aren't enough.

I typed a longer response, but then the forum booted me out of logged in status for some reason, so I will try to reconstruct my advice more briefly.

If you're not consistently and completely incontinent and can/want to use toilets when you can, I recommend pull on "underwear." They don't have quite the capacity of briefs/diapers, but in my own experience, I don't have the dexterity to be dealing with fasteners while in extreme urgency. When needed, I use cloth overnight most of the time to cut down on the expense of high quality disposables and the odor of the trash they generate. For me, laundry doesn't tend to pile up as much and I have a machine in my own home, so this is more convenient at home. The times I don't use cloth are during heavy menstrual periods, when being able to discard a pull on outweighs the hassle of getting blood stains out of heavy cloth.

However, if one is regularly outside the home for several hours at a time-- in your case, at school-- using cloth means finding room to put bulky spares and figuring out how to conceal used ones so they don't cause social embarrassment is generally pretty inconvenient. You might mention that to your mother. So many of us, including me, use disposables then. Joe has mentioned the Abena line from Europe, which I find the best. Many people here use XP Medical, Magic Medical or North Shore Care, but they're also available on Amazon.com and Drugstore.com and some other sites. The best prices will vary depending on each site's promotions and sales at any given time and if you're buying one package to try out, a few or an entire case, so shop around a bit. Until you figure out what works for you, what you like best, and how much you're likely to use in a given time period (This can be a challenge for me as in my situation, my usage isn't consistent), don't go overboard and buy a ton of stuff just because something appears to be less expensive in bulk. I've been guilty of that.

I also generally like Tranquility pull ons, which are an American brand. Drugstore.com doesn't carry them, but the other sites I mentioned do, and you probably can even find them in some brick and mortar average retail stores, depending on your area, whereas I'd be very surprised to see Abenas in a store. Tranquility is less bulky than Abena, and tears a bit less easily. I've torn Abenas by accident sometimes. Tranquility is also somewhat less expensive. On the flip side, one tends to feel it more when a Tranquility is soiled. This can be a good thing, as we can misjudge when a pull on has reached capacity if we don't feel much, but in a situation when one can't change for a while, that might be uncomfortable. Also, because of Tranquility's trademark "peach" (orange) mat on the inside, sometimes it's hard to see how much blood has come out during menstruation. (Apologies to the men here, for being graphic, but sometimes advice needs to get real.) Most other brands are white on the inside.

If you leak small to moderate amounts occasionally or have enough control to slow the flow somewhat if you feel it coming, Attends pull ons may work for you, are even less expensive and more readily available in many places online and in stores. However, in my experience, if you have the possibility of massive flooding of most or all of a full bladder with little warning, as is the case for me sometimes, Attends won't be good enough, nor will they work overnight. As far as disposable pull ons go, you'll need Abena or Tranquility for that.

Hope this helps. Good luck.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:36 pm 
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Hi again and a big thank you to Joe and Scott for offering up some advice.

I see both a my family doctor and a urinary specialist every couple of months and they check my progress. My bladder was ruptured in a car crash a little over a year ago. I have had two surgeries where the doctors have gone in and worked on it but from what I've been told limited control is probably the best I can hope for.

You have no idea how much I would rather not go the diaper route. Well actually you might, but anyways I feel as if I have spent the last year as a slave to the bathroom. Having to keep my alarm set and running to the bathroom every hour gets really really old. I can't even go out for a night with my friends without making sure I know where the nearest toilet is, and half of the time I still have accidents. The Goodnites keep my pants mostly dry but then I have to deal with changing in public, which really embarrasses me. It sounds stupid but I dream of being able to go to the movies or actually get through an entire cheer performance at the football game without making an emergency toilet run or having an accident. I swear I'm three years old again, can't go anywhere or do anything without a case of "Mommy I have to go potty NOW!" Sometimes I don't know whether to scream or cry.

Okay, okay, a little calmer. Anyways I will look at these Wellness diapers and this XPMedical site you mentioned. I will also ask my doctor about this, I think I have an appointment with her early next month. Maybe she can help me talk mom into it.

Thanks again guys!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Welcome Bethany. I think I'm safe to say that most of us in this community who rely on diapers to manage our incontinence have gone through the "feeling babyish" thing when we first began wearing diapers, both disposable and cloth. This feeling goes away after time and wearing diapers beome just another part of the clothing you wear. Try thinking of them as underwear which are just different than the ones you used to wear. So many adults wear diapers that the baby sitgma is unfounded. Just look at the adult diapers in any grocery store, pharmacy or at your local Walmart. I understand why cloth diapers are a hassle at school. I switched to mostly cloth due to several reasons (cost, reliability, etc...) but I use disposables when travelling or staying with friends or family for convenience and privacy. I know what it is like to lose bladder control due to an accident. It isn't easy but it sounds like you are excepting of your situation. Talk with your mother about using disposables at school. Explain the difficulty you are having.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:27 pm 
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Welcome to the site Bethany, I really cannot add anything that has not already been typed in other replies, but you can find a ton of help here, along with terrific support and knowledge on how to best handle this issue. Keep us posted on how you do with all this! Puffy :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:58 pm 
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Hi Bethany :D

So good to have you on our board. I'm Sandy one of the only active females on this board. I'd love to talk with you when I have more time. If you read my earlier post you may find lots of information that may help. I also was wearing protection in High School. If you'd like to send me a Private Message Please feel free to do so :wink: ...................Sandy :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:32 am 
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ScottK wrote:
While there can be lots of good information here, the first person you should talk to is your doctor....

I've been incon for 40 years, I have yet to find a Dr. that can help find a good diaper! Most of them say "Go to the store and see what they have".


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