Well, seeing that I needed to add to my cloth closet, I ordered a couple of coverpants I have never tried from Kins, one in polyester (should be very similar to the Gabby's version), one in nylon, and one in rubber. Going to see which I prefer best for nights, as I know I do not like the Vinyl Kin's style I tried a while ago, dried out, and was just too stiff for my liking. I prefer the poly at night, I don't even notice I have it on, makes for a better sleep. Maybe one of the "untried" styles I just ordered will be even better, will post a report after they all get a trial run. Not expecting much out of the rubber version, but until they get a trial I can't be sure. I did try a Suprima pant a long time ago, but it was a softer vinyl style that didn't make it to 6 months, tore before it cracked, with very light usage... will see...

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