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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:31 am 
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All,

Thanks again for your suggestions. I am doing research and compiling notes now for the next revision of my white paper "An Introduction to Adult Diapers."

Per Bruce's suggestion, I am adding a general section on Travel in Diapers with sub-sections addressing general travel, wearing diapers at airports, diapers during TSA security, diapers on the airplane, and diapers on cruise ships.

I already have a "For Guys Only" section and am adding a "For Gals Only" section in which, at Zenute's encouragement, I will discuss diapers and menstruation. I already have done a lot of research on this and have learned a lot that never occurred to me previously. :oops:

For those with limited mobility and dexterity, I have expanded the section on pull-ups and am taking a more positive point-of-view to counter my normal preference for taped diapers. I really need more input here. For those with dexterity issues, how do you handle a change with taped diapers? How does limited mobility affect your choice of products and how you use them? What about wheelchair users? I think some prefer cloth diapers but cannot tell whether that is the majority. If I do not receive any input I will be sending PMs to some of you asking these same questions. :D

I am adding to the section on cloth diapers, but feel that I do not need to do much on that topic as so much already is available in The New Diaper Primer.

Thanks again for your suggestions. Now, I need some more. If you would prefer not to post a message here, please send me a PM. Remember, the finished paper may help not only someone new in this forum, but all those many more who are incontinent and will find the paper via a Google search.

--John


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:29 pm 
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JDinVirginia wrote:
Hello to all,

Schoppy just posted my newly revised white paper “An Introduction to Adult Diapers – their Selection and Wear” to the Articles section. You can find it from the Home page by clicking <Articles> and <Other Articles> or by clicking this link:
http://www.incontinentsupport.org/Intro ... iapers.pdf

This paper is my effort to provide others with information to answer the questions I struggled to answer during the first six or so months after I began wearing adult diapers. I have put a lot of time into the paper and this is its second major revision. Please note that it is intended for newbies to adult diapers or for the relatively uninformed user who never went beyond buying drugstore diapers. It cannot compete with the scope or depth of the excellent The New Diaper Primer, which is referenced in the paper.

Guys and ladies, I really need your feedback as I would like to make the next revision better than this one. I need to know what should be improved and what new topics should be added. If you would take the time to read the paper and provide me your constructive comments, they truly will be appreciated. Either post them publicly to this forum or send them to me privately in a PM.

I should note that my other white paper “Preventive Enemas for the Control of Fecal “incontinence” also is in the Articles and I again would appreciate any comments you would care to provide.

Thanks to all. :D

--John

Very good a very imformative read.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:57 pm 
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To date, the next draft version of my introduction to wearing diapers has expended somewhat - actually about 9 additional pages! :shock: The following are topical areas that have been added or expanded and will be added to the current draft, not necessarily in the order listed.

Travel in Diapers
-General travel
-Road Trips
-Airports
-TSA security inspection
-On the plane
-At Sea (Cruise Ship Travel)
-Camping
-Traveling with Others
-Online Ordering Diapers in UK & Europe
-Stores for Diapers in UK
Diapers and Storage Space
More on lighter protection
More on pull-ups
Do Diapers Expire?
Daytime diaper carry
Ultra-high absorbency diapers
For Gals Only - Diapers and "That Time of the Month"
Leaks and cleaning up
Swim diapers
Limited dexterity or mobility and pull-ups
Limited dexterity and taped diapers

As I would like to produce a new version for March, I am just going to have to draw the line somewhere. Any additional suggestions will NOT be wasted, but will go into a later version.

Thanks to all for suggestions and help!! It will benefit others in the incontinent community. :D

--John


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:18 pm 
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Thanks, John. The outline looks good.

More on from the female point of view as well as limited dexterity mobility.

Keep in mind that even for women without incon issues, using a public restroom generally takes longer than it does for a man. This has been written about extensively and is true from observation. Pay attention to any crowded public venue. Very often there are long lines for women, while men are, relatively, in and out, and it's not necessarily because women are primping in front of the mirror as I have seen mentioned in articles on occasion.

A man can enter a restroom, unzip, use a urinal, zip up, hopefully use the sink and leave. A woman must often stand in line waiting for a stall that is free. Then she must enter the stall, close and lock the door. Women are more likely to be carrying a purse or bag of some sort, so they have to put the bag somewhere-- on a hook if there is one, or on the floor. Then we have to undo our clothes, which may have more elaborate fasteners or other features that take more time. Some women are concerned about the cleanliness of the seat in public restrooms, so they may clean the seat or lay down a cover or paper. Then they can sit and use the toilet. If there's a bowel movement or menstruation involved also, that's going to take more wiping, and we may need to get up or bend down to open the bag to get sanitary supplies, open them, position them, dispose of the resulting trash, redo our clothes, retrieve the bag, open the door, use the sink. Women still also tend to be more likely than men to be tending to one or more small children on an adult who may need assistance with their own toileting needs or supervision or whatever, which takes up more time. Then women can finally leave the restroom. This is why women generally take longer in a multistall public restroom than men in the first place. A single user restroom would be more like using one's home bathroom. And this is without any incon or mobility issues whatsoever. It's just the physical and societal reality of being a woman.

Add in the factor of being incon. Sanitary supplies for menstruation are small. If a woman knows she needs them at that moment (and she may not), a single change can be slipped into a pocket. One can't do that with incon supplies. Woman or man, one is going to carry in a bag of some sort. And if one is not fully incontinent, but often has sudden urgency, as I do, one wants to get in there and use the toilet ASAP. With a pull on (or liner or pad), a woman can relatively quickly pull down, rather than undoing a brief and possibly dropping it or allowing contents to spill. (and then having to spend time cleaning) Pull ups can be torn for removal or pads can be pulled out and changed relatively quickly. Changing a brief requires even more time.

Re: mobility or dexterity issues: Briefs require balance-- some people with mobility issues may not be able to stand all or may not be able to balance well. You wrote something about standing against a wall. Not in a narrow public stall, or necessarily even a wider public one. Where I work, all of the toilet paper holders, designed for many rolls at once are huge contraptions protruding from one wall of the stall, and even as a relatively petite woman, I'm squeezing my way in. Changing and balancing requires being able to do that while reach behind oneself or to the side in a narrow stall, which some people may not be able to do, and being able to reach the tapes and place them accurately, which may be difficult with dexterity or vision issues. If it is not done correctly, the brief will fall off or at the very least one may have ruined a brief if the tapes are not refastenable, or even if they are, one must try again, and perhaps yet again with each tape. Even if one can do all of that, just more slowly than a person without disabilities, imagine that you have a 5 or 10 minute break from a meeting and many other people are in line for your stall or, even if you are alone in the public restroom, you have an appointment or work commitment in 15 minutes. By this time, for a woman with incon and mobility issues, it would be half an hour or more in the bathroom every 2-4 hours. Unreasonable. This is why I use pull ons and pads.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:04 am 
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zenute, I could not have stated it better - thank you.

Wetters


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:16 am 
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Wonderful Zenute! Thanks again for taking the time to provide a much-needed woman's perspective. Ladies, I will appreciate anything you have to tell me. If it is too personal, please send me a PM or an email. I am trying to do the right thing here despite my handicap of gender.

Canadians - I just realized that I left Canada out in the travel in diapers section. :oops: I would appreciate it if someone could provide some recommendations on reliable online diaper suppliers and retail stores in Canada. As it is a travel section, the online suppliers should stock at least one brand of premium taped diapers and be able to provide two-day delivery so that one could receive resupply in a hotel, etc. Retail stores should provide at least one brand of premium taped diapers.

Sorry, but other geographic areas are just beyond the current scope of my paper. Canada and the UK are must-haves. The UK is doubly important as many international travelers pass through the UK and can receive a resupply of diapers there. I even am looking at cruises which begin and end in the UK so that I can buy diapers or have them delivered to a hotel both before and after a cruise, and then have some land travel.

--John


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:58 am 
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Hello all,

Schoppy has just posted to the Articles, Other Articles section the latest revision of my white paper “An Introduction to Adult Diapers, their Selection and Wear,” dated March 2015. This is a major revision as I have incorporated suggestions from other members and have added 14 new pages, bringing the total to 46 pages.

At the suggestion of other board members, I have added an extensive new section on Travel in Diapers, including international travel and sources for diapers in Canada and the UK, and new sections on Lighter Protection, Limited Mobility or Dexterity and Diapers, “For Gals Only,” Swim Diapers, Mattress Protection, Chaffing, Diaper Storage Space, and Do Diapers Expire?. I have greatly expanded the section on pullups. There also are numerous small changes. It is a better paper and I hope that you will like it.

The paper is at the link below:
http://www.incontinentsupport.org/Intro ... iapers.pdf

As always, the paper remains a work in progress and I would appreciate your constructive comments and input to make the next edition even better.

--John


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:09 pm 
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That's coming along pretty well JD. Great job!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:45 pm 
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JD, I just finished reading your white paper. I found it to be substantive, informative, concise and easy to read. Thanks for your efforts and service to the forum and to the incontinence community.

Wetters


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:17 pm 
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Wetters,

Thank you for your very kind words! :D

--John


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