www.incontinentsupport.org

Found this on the interwebs, apparently we shouldn't use diapers to manage our IC..... we should buy their product instead....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7MriFuOws

Video Title: The Ugly Truth About Adult Diapers for Men

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LOL, way to spin those "facts" in benefit of their own product. Which they don't even mention what it is or why it's supposed to better.... an external catheter by the way.

The environmental effect is what worries me the most as environmentalism and conservation are very close to my heart and guide most of my consumer choices and are central to my values and greatly influence my critical attitude towards consumption of all sorts of products. That's why I try to keep my wearing to a minimum and search for other ways to manage my problems, but as I've mentioned repeatedly, I am not totally incontinent and wear mostly as a back-up. The situation is very different for a person with no bladder and/or bowel control whatsoever, who are bedridden or severely disabled. In hospital and care-home environments disposables are often the only viable solution.

I bet the Bioderm's catheter, when disposed of, is also hazardous waste like any medical and health care equipment (think about surplus medicine, antibiotics, used syringes and what not), the making of which has required some very special oil-based plastics hauled from large industrial zones such as those situated in northern Europe, Belgium and Saudi Arabia. It's not like it's ecological and environmentally friendly, although it may be somewhat less harmful.

A catheter may not suit everyone's needs either. And from a marketing point of view, shaming & attacking your customer segment may not be the smartest thing to do. The manufacture of medicines and medical products contribute to a massive amount of waste, use of energy and natural resources and despite there being interest in greener solutions, these products will always be harmful to the environment as disposability is often a must for safety reasons and residue of chemicals are present in factory sewage and say, the urine, of people using medicines. There are also studies that indicate that cloth diapers may be even more harmful to the environment (in the shorter run) as washing consumes water and energy and urine and faeces present in the wash-water increase the demands on water treatment plants and may also spread into the groundwater, rivers and seas, especially in areas with old or deficient sewer-systems. It goes to show there are no unproblematic solutions, no matter what the industries (whether medical, adult incontinence products, automobile or IT) and retailers tell you, especially in their rather hostile marketing videos.

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"There are also studies that indicate that cloth diapers may be even more harmful to the environment (in the shorter run) as washing consumes water and energy and urine and faeces present in the wash-water increase the demands on water treatment plants and may also spread into the groundwater, rivers and seas, especially in areas with old or deficient sewer-systems."

Seriously? Where does the urine and feces go if it goes down a toilet? (I think it might also go to that old or deficient sewer-system. What about you? ) Papa

Yes, of course it goes to the same sewer-system, which is why old systems present a real danger. What I meant to say that there are no fool-proof methods to make sure that our waste does not end up polluting rivers and groundwater. Old-style landfills tend to leak all sorts of hazardous waste which may end up in water, but that is not to say that urine and faeces and whatever contaminants present in them that go down the toilet couldn't end up in the environment. Actually it often does, albeit in smaller amounts than if the sewage went into rivers and oceans completely untreated, as it used to until a few decades ago.

Older water treatment plants tend to have problems with sewage (increase in water volumes present a problem for plants that are designed for smaller amounts of waste water, which may lead to overflows or necessitate letting the water go untreated). Even though modern facilities deal with contaminated water better, nothing is 100 % perfect. Bacteria, chemicals and drug residue tend to end up in water at some point. For example, hormones, antibiotics, caffeine and other human-generated waste are present in rivers and oceans, especially near the coastlines, to such an extent that they have an effect on marine ecology. Even though industrial facilities and agriculture are largely responsible for the most severe pollution, underpowered, deficient or lacking water treatment facilities are a problem too. Plastic particles, whether from the streets or even household water are usually not captured by water treatment plants either and end up in bodies of water. Production of wood pulp, cotton and plastics all require large amounts of natural resources. There are no easy ways out. However, it should be noted, that at least in Finland, recycling percent of all waste is high, and burning of non-recyclable waste is getting more common. Even though this is not unproblematic either, high temperatures destroy for example the bacteria present in human faeces and some chemicals reducing their presence in the environment.

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On the topic of environmentalism, I wouldn't be surprised if eating cereal is bad for the environment (manufacturing, packaging, shipping, etc). Or most anything that supports consumerism for that matter. The best thing we can do is just try and offset those negative effects. Make you next car a hybrid/electric, put up a wind turbine or solar panels at your house, or just commit to planting a 100 trees each year if you're worried abut it. Most importantly though, don't worry about the negative effects for using something you need.

one thing we are overlooking is the fact that in order to apply mens liberty, you have to wash the penis with ivory soap to dry out hte skin.. correct me if im wrong, but isnt demoisturizing the skin a bad thing??

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WHAT???? Papa

Yes Papa, you heard that right... you have to wash the the penis and groin with a ivory soap in order to dry out the skin.. and then apply adhesive... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPg7b64OLvo

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Oh my G!
Catheters are the worst! OK second worst - right below dilation and cystoscopy....

They are extremely painful, uncomfortable and highly degrading and not even that reliable.
If you so much as move an inch, sneeze or even walk, you will know and feel it right in your dick.
And with external catheters you also have to worry about blowout and it is as much hassle to deal with as diapers are. Plus that ivory soap and crap leaves your penis feeling like it's raw all day.
Even worse- waking up with a catheter and dealing with the wood... or erections.... owwww painful memories. Several times my cath or bag sprung a leak and it was 10x worse to cleanup or deal with

Really you don't save any dignity using catheters instead of diapers.
At least I can still get an erection when I see a hot girl and I don't have to worry even half as much about leaks or have my dick hurt if I sneeze or cough. And he'll I can actually exercise some in diapers compared to when I had to use a catheter.
The advertisements showing how you can exercise freely using such catheters (internal or external like the "liberty" cath) are clearly bs

Regardless the so called "environment cost", the relative cost in comfort, pain and dignity for me is a far more scarce resource that I am not going to part with so easily for such a flimsy "solution"