Questions for the F-IC
Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:28 am
Last Sunday, I nearly had a BM in front of the cashier at the Canadian Tire store. When I first got there while shopping, I felt a storm brewing below but I figured it could be suppressed, even if it were a bit uncomfortable. But by the time I got to the cashier line, it was getting downright urgent.
Try as I might to suppress it, it just kept on "pushing". When the free cashier signalled to me that she was available, I took baby steps towards her station without making it too obvious. If had I took my normal stride, it would have all come out. I was so close to giving in, it was so bad. But I took small steps across the parking lot to the car and sitting down quieted the urge down to a subdued level, and I was able to make it home.
All of this reminded me that I am not prepared for this! I've had some diarrhea incidents and a partial BM on another occasion. I have to face the fact that F-IC is headed my way so it seems.
So now I have questions:
Q1. Is a pull-up sufficient for containment? I suspect not, or at least not without plastic pants. Embarrassment is job #1, but avoiding soling my jeans is the 2nd main priority. I normally wear pull-ups during the day since I use the toilet when I can.
Q2. Would you trust something like the TENA Flex (shown below) with a BM (it is open at the sides for breathing)? I sometimes wear these when I want to allow myself to air out some, and on other days I'll wear an underwear brief over it as a compresser.
Q3. How do you deal with the gag reflex? My father had that bad but I know it will affect me too.
Q4. I need to find out more about Nullo or its equivalents. I assume this is an over-the-counter drug of some sort.
Q5. If you were in my place, not yet F-IC and managing urinary IC, how what would you wear just in case? I don't want to be over protected but at the same time I want to save face if the worst should happen. The main challenge for me is that I still make use of the toilet at home/office.
Nothing about this is easy.
Try as I might to suppress it, it just kept on "pushing". When the free cashier signalled to me that she was available, I took baby steps towards her station without making it too obvious. If had I took my normal stride, it would have all come out. I was so close to giving in, it was so bad. But I took small steps across the parking lot to the car and sitting down quieted the urge down to a subdued level, and I was able to make it home.
All of this reminded me that I am not prepared for this! I've had some diarrhea incidents and a partial BM on another occasion. I have to face the fact that F-IC is headed my way so it seems.
So now I have questions:Q1. Is a pull-up sufficient for containment? I suspect not, or at least not without plastic pants. Embarrassment is job #1, but avoiding soling my jeans is the 2nd main priority. I normally wear pull-ups during the day since I use the toilet when I can.
Q2. Would you trust something like the TENA Flex (shown below) with a BM (it is open at the sides for breathing)? I sometimes wear these when I want to allow myself to air out some, and on other days I'll wear an underwear brief over it as a compresser.
Q3. How do you deal with the gag reflex? My father had that bad but I know it will affect me too.
Q4. I need to find out more about Nullo or its equivalents. I assume this is an over-the-counter drug of some sort.
Q5. If you were in my place, not yet F-IC and managing urinary IC, how what would you wear just in case? I don't want to be over protected but at the same time I want to save face if the worst should happen. The main challenge for me is that I still make use of the toilet at home/office.
Nothing about this is easy.
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Re: Questions for the F-IC
Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:35 am
The threat of having a BM in public can be devastating. Perhaps others can chime in here. I use Devrom, which I purchase online. Also, for GI issues, there is no such thing as over protection. An absorbent, high-quality diaper, whether disposable or washable, covered by a reliable over pant, backed up by a well-stocked diaper/gym bag are essential to our well-being. Good luck and report back when you can.
Re: Questions for the F-IC
Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:58 am
Pullups definitely are NOT adequate for fecal incontinence and are even worse if it is diarrhea. You need to wear a real diaper with tabs, plus plastic pants. I have been there - I know. 
Nullo and Devrom are internal deodorants that are available over-the-counter. I have used them and they can work very well for most people. However, to be fully effective a high dosage may be necessary. The higher doses can cause constipation.
I would wear a tabbed (taped) diaper with plastic pants for bladder IC, not a pullup. No change for the bowel IC.
Patrick is quite correct (as usual) about the need for preparation. A well-stocked gym bag is your "emergency kit" and should contain wipes, disposal bags, and a change of clothing, in addition to extra diapers. I use a small backpack with just the essentials and have a larger "disaster kit" in my car.
Have you seen a physician?
Good luck!
--John
(double incontinent)
Nullo and Devrom are internal deodorants that are available over-the-counter. I have used them and they can work very well for most people. However, to be fully effective a high dosage may be necessary. The higher doses can cause constipation.
I would wear a tabbed (taped) diaper with plastic pants for bladder IC, not a pullup. No change for the bowel IC.
Patrick is quite correct (as usual) about the need for preparation. A well-stocked gym bag is your "emergency kit" and should contain wipes, disposal bags, and a change of clothing, in addition to extra diapers. I use a small backpack with just the essentials and have a larger "disaster kit" in my car.
Have you seen a physician?
Good luck!
--John
(double incontinent)
Re: Questions for the F-IC
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:29 am
I think you're both right. I need to wear full protection of brief and plastic pants when I head out to stores or do errands. I can't see anything else being effective enough as you said. I can skimp when at home (which is now my office).
As for seeing the "physician" about this, no. I am waiting for this pandemic mode to end. Right now when I call I get the secretary (with heavy accent). I would only personally see the doc if the situation was "warranted". I hate dealing with my doc through a 3rd party. One day, I'll catch up with him in person.
My earlier my urinary IC was attributed to my 20+ years of diabetes (nerve damage). I expect that the same prognosis will be given for my increasing bowel issues. It feels like the involuntary system is ignoring/fighting the voluntary control system. My brain says stop, but the bowels say "keep pushing". It's like two active components in electronics deciding which one is the strongest.
As for seeing the "physician" about this, no. I am waiting for this pandemic mode to end. Right now when I call I get the secretary (with heavy accent). I would only personally see the doc if the situation was "warranted". I hate dealing with my doc through a 3rd party. One day, I'll catch up with him in person.
My earlier my urinary IC was attributed to my 20+ years of diabetes (nerve damage). I expect that the same prognosis will be given for my increasing bowel issues. It feels like the involuntary system is ignoring/fighting the voluntary control system. My brain says stop, but the bowels say "keep pushing". It's like two active components in electronics deciding which one is the strongest.